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		<title>Asperger Syndrome and &#8216;religious belief&#8217;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 07:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here, I would very much like to ask Aspies who consider themselves to be &#8216;theists&#8217; (who believe in one or more deities) to describe the mechanics of their &#8216;belief&#8217; as best as possible.  (Of course, I would like all Aspies to describe their mechanics of &#8216;belief&#8217; &#8211; but theist ones in particular, because I suspect [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=xanthippaonaspergers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8055978&amp;post=122&amp;subd=xanthippaonaspergers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, I would very much like to ask Aspies who consider themselves to be &#8216;theists&#8217; (who believe in one or more deities) to describe the mechanics of their &#8216;belief&#8217; as best as possible.  (Of course, I would like all Aspies to describe their mechanics of &#8216;belief&#8217; &#8211; but theist ones in particular, because I suspect that Aspie theists are quite rare.)</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>I have as yet to meet one&#8230;</p>
<p>I do know many Aspies, most of whom have been raised in theist homes when they were children.  Yet, when I have discussed this whole topic of religion and belief, it has become clear to me that not one of them &#8216;believes&#8217; in deities in the sense that neurotypicals who &#8216;believe&#8217; do.  The closest to &#8216;belief&#8217; these people have come is to choose to live as if this whole &#8216;God proposition&#8217; were true in much the same way that people can accept that something &#8216;is true&#8217; in the &#8216;universe of Star Trek&#8217; and can then extrapolate &#8216;new ideas&#8217; within that pre-defined frame.  Within<em> these</em> parameters, <em>this</em> is true&#8230;</p>
<p>But, of course, this does not really relate to reality&#8230;</p>
<p>I am not sure if I am explaining this in a way that non-Aspies will understand.</p>
<p>What I am trying to describe is akin to saying: <em> not that I agree with this, but let&#8217;s accept this to be true for the sake of this discussion&#8230;</em>  I suspect that the Aspies who live as theists follow some version of this reasoning, which I understand is different from the &#8216;belief&#8217; that most neurotypicals experienc.</p>
<p>Yes, I do understand that I am skirting the whole debate<em> &#8216;what constitutes belief&#8217;</em>  &#8211; but I hope that rather than focusing on the greater debate here, people will comment (so we can explore this discussion) on the difference between &#8216;religious belief&#8217; as experienced by Aspies and non-Aspies.</p>
<p>Why do I think this is a topic worthy of discussion?</p>
<p>For the sake of the children, of course&#8230;  Let me explain.</p>
<p>I know that I am incapable of &#8216;belief&#8217; in the traditional sense &#8211; at best, I view validity of ideas based on probabilities.  Even the ideas I hold as my &#8216;core views&#8217;, the ones I consider define me as me, even those ideas I cannot rate at 100% probability.</p>
<p>I have been this way from as far back as I can remember.  I could never understand why other children would behave as if things were &#8216;definite&#8217; or &#8216;certain&#8217;, how they could be so sure of, well, anything&#8230;  They, on the other hand, thought that my constant qualifications of my position on anything meant I was setting things up so I could lie, or some other display of dishonesty&#8230;which, of course, was the exact opposite of what I was trying to do.  I have since learned, in most social interactions, to censor out the vast majority of the uncertainties and qualifications &#8211; yet my speech still contains much more of these than displayed in majority of neurotypicals&#8217; conversations.</p>
<p>Back to &#8216;the children&#8217;:  I know many families where two non-Aspies have Aspie children, but I do not know of a single family where two Aspie parents would have any non-Aspie children, which is why the focus of this discussion is on Aspie children in non-Aspie households.</p>
<p>If I am correct in my observation that Aspies are physically incapable of &#8216;neurotypical belief&#8217;, what happens when theist parents are raising Aspie children?</p>
<p>What happens when Aspie children are sent to be educated in religious schools?</p>
<p><strong>The demands made on Aspie children to &#8216;believe&#8217; (in the neurotypical manner) in deities may be something these children are simply not physically capable of!</strong></p>
<p>Of course, in theism, failure to &#8216;believe&#8217; in just the right manner is interpreted as &#8216;sin&#8217; and &#8216;heresy&#8217; &#8211; a very bad thing.  Children who fail to &#8216;believe&#8217; are considered defiant and disobedient, to be punished and broken until they &#8216;believe&#8217;.</p>
<p>I have observed a number of Aspie children in these situations.  In some Aspie children I have observed, this demand to &#8216;believe&#8217; in a way they were physically incapable of had led to serious internal turmoil and led them to believe they were inherently bad people.  In others, it led to further withdrawal from social interactions, and in two cases I am aware of it led to serious childhood depression.  (Granted &#8211; other factors were there, but this was a big complication&#8230;)</p>
<p>So, we are talking about very serious effects here.</p>
<p>Last summer, an Aspie friend of my son joined us for our holidays:  it was his first time away from his family and his parents were thrilled that he got an opportunity to spend a week &#8216;with his own kind&#8217; &#8211; in an all-Aspie household.  I think he had enjoyed himself, but there was one incident I was not certain of how to handle.</p>
<p>We holidayed up north, where the nature is pristine and light pollution is very low at night.  As we were going through a meteor shower, we spent one clear evening lying on our backs on the beach and watching the deep, velvety night sky bejeweled by millions of stars.  We saw some spectacular &#8216;shooting stars&#8217; when our young (13) Aspie friend got quite upset:  he explained that watching the vastness of the universe in the night-time sky made him finally realize that there probably is no afterlife&#8230;</p>
<p>This inability to &#8216;believe&#8217; &#8211; in spite of a desire to &#8211; is unpleasant in itself.  Adding to it parental and societal disapproval for &#8216;not believing&#8217; &#8211; that can cause definite damage to a young person&#8217;s ability to grow up healthy and to their maximum potential.</p>
<p>Obviously, even though I probably know more Aspies than an average person does, my sample size is insufficient for anything more than &#8216;a hunch&#8217;&#8230;which is why I would welcome comments that might help us explore this issue together.</p>
<p>(Re-posted from<a title="Xanthippa's Chamberpot" href="http://blog.xanthippas.com/2011/12/05/asperger-syndrome-and-religious-belief/" target="_blank"> Xanthippa&#8217;s Chamberpot</a>)</p>
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		<title>The Guild &#8211; a fun Aspie show</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 05:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Felicia Day, the creator of the online show The Guild, is a genius. She herself has degrees in Mathematica and Music (which is really just one form of applied mathematics).  I do not know if she is an Aspie herself, but she certainly knows how to portray and entertain us!  I would recommend watching The [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=xanthippaonaspergers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8055978&amp;post=117&amp;subd=xanthippaonaspergers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title="Felicia Day" href="http://feliciaday.com/" target="_blank">Felicia Day</a>, the creator of the online show <a title="Wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guild" target="_blank">The Guild</a>, is a genius.</p>
<p>She herself has degrees in Mathematica and Music (which is really just one form of applied mathematics).  I do not know if she is an Aspie herself, but she certainly knows how to portray and entertain us!  I would recommend watching The Guild (which is in its 5th season) to anyone who is or loves an Aspie (or who has to interact with us and who would like to get more of an insight into our psyches).</p>
<p>The first season was strictly non-sponsored, made for YouTube.  It is so good and has such a following (I suspect that mostly among Aspies)</p>
<p>Here is the first episode of the first season:</p>
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<p>Many parents of Aspie kids/teens have asked me if I think it is bad to let them have a lot of online time.  I do not.</p>
<p>To the contrary &#8211; I think online interactions are an exceptionally useful tools for Aspies (and parents of Aspies) to encourage social growth.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it &#8211; Aspies mature differently from NT&#8217;s (neurotypicals &#8211; non-Aspies).  In some aspects, we are much more advanced than our NT peers and we find it quite offensive when NT adults treat us as idiots and simplify things to the point of error while talking to us.  On the other hand, we are much slower to mature socially &#8211; some of us find most social interactions with NTs quite disturbing.</p>
<p>Interaction over the internet is both simpler &#8211; the rules are simplified and usually explicitly stated &#8211; and more in our control:  if we feel a &#8216;melt down&#8217; or if we want to leave the interaction for any reason, we can simply log off! That is an incredible &#8216;security blanket&#8217; &#8211; being able to remove oneself from a stressful social situation rather than waiting for it to blow up.</p>
<p>When my younger son got a girlfriend (his first) in and MMO RPG, my older son was concerned that this might be wrong or inappropriate for his social development.  I explained that I disagreed &#8211; his brother was aware that the online persona might hide absolutely anyone, but he was having fun &#8216;trying out&#8217; flirting in a completely safe environment.  When they eventually did &#8216;break up&#8217;, he did not ever have to log onto that particular site again.  Ever!</p>
<p>This avoided a lot of awkwardness.  Being in the same class/school with his ex and having to interact with her daily would have been extremely stressful and would have stifled his desire to interact with other humans.  Like this, it was a perfectly safe (and supervised!) interaction, where he got to practice his social flirting skills without the fear of consequences should he fail.</p>
<p>I see that as a win-win!</p>
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		<title>Aspies need to know what their assignment actually is</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lately, I have neglected posting on the topic of Aspergers.  Still, judging by the relative traffic among my posts, there is a need for more information there:  both Aspies and educators are still looking for help. Last December, I received the following comment: I have an Aspie student, and when asked to produce 2 sentences [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=xanthippaonaspergers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8055978&amp;post=113&amp;subd=xanthippaonaspergers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>Lately, I have neglected posting on the topic of Aspergers.  Still, judging by the relative traffic among my posts, there is a need for more information there:  both Aspies and educators are still looking for help.</p>
<p>Last December, I received the following comment:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>I have an Aspie student, and when asked to produce 2 sentences about a topic in class, will just sit and think the entire period producing nothing&#8230; (I do believe that he is thinking about the topic). The topic has been given to student prior to class. Is this an unreasonable task? This is an 7th grade gifted autistic student.</em></p>
<p><em>I understand the perfectionism issue and that they may be unsure that it is good enough to put on paper, but in an educational setting I would like some suggestions to assist the regular Language Arts teacher. This is a graded assignment to be done in class.</em></p>
<p><em>Thanks in advance for any ideas you may have.</em></p>
<p><em>Deb Herr<br />
Special Education Teacher</em></p></blockquote>
<p>While I gave a quick reply at that time, this is a very important point which deserves a lot of attention.  So, I had attempted to write up a proper response.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t right &#8211; so I edited t.</p>
<p>Then I fixed it up some.</p>
<p>Then t needed shortening down a bit.  So, I cut a bunch of stuff out.</p>
<p>Too much of the key &#8216;stuff&#8217; was gone.  I started a re-write.  From scratch&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and so on, and so on.</p>
<p>It is now October.  I have still not published the post &#8211; it is not &#8216;right&#8217; yet!!!!</p>
<p>NO, I am NOT joking!</p>
<p>So, now, I will publish the draft I have, without re-reading it, with all the flaws, errors, sentence fragments and all &#8211; or I will NEVER publish this&#8230;</p>
<p>Here it goes:</p>
<p>Both my sons are in the gifted program.  One has gone through grade 7 several years ago, one is going to get there in not too distant a future &#8211; so, I am familiar with the level of development of a gifted Aspie of that age group.</p>
<p>Just to be sure, I asked my older son if he remembered being in that situation himself.  He did&#8230;and was in perfect agreement with me as to what thought-processes this student would be going through: trying to figure out what the assignment means!</p>
<p>Being in the gifted program means the student is smart.  By the time they get to grade 7, smart Aspies understand perfectly well that when a teacher asks for &#8217;any two sentences on a topic&#8217;, the absolutely last thing this means is &#8217;any two sentences on a topic&#8217;!</p>
<p>Experience would have taught them that&#8230;by now.  And not in a nice way.</p>
<p>But, it would not have taught them what it is that the teacher/assignment does mean &#8211; or how to guess it&#8230;.</p>
<p>So, I think it most likely that the student spent the time trying to figure out what the assignment actually was!  And, with so little information provided to the student, I really don&#8217;t see how anyone could figure it out!</p>
<p>Therefore, my answer is that yes, it is unreasonable an Aspie or an Autie gifted student, in grade 7, to complete an assignment of &#8216;writing 2 sentences on a given topic&#8217;.</p>
<p>Reasons:</p>
<ul>
<li>The assignment is non-specific.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>The parameters are not defined.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>The goals of the assignment are not known.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>The expectations are unclear (or, in this case, clearly misrepresented).</li>
</ul>
<p>BUT!!!</p>
<p>There IS a solution!</p>
<p>Aspies &#8211; and high-functioning Auties &#8211; are very good at meeting very specific goals.  I know that teachers are not used to approaching teaching this way, but, they would get WAY better results from this class of students if they were absolutely clear with them what the point of the assignment is, what the goal is, and what the evaluation criteria will be.</p>
<p>This worked for me &#8211; and my sons, as well as a few other kids I worked with:</p>
<p>First, we establish that in order to produce marks, teachers have to produce metrics:  marks which measure the student&#8217;s skill-set development in several areas.  This may seem like a game, but, because teachers have to work within such a large system, metrics were required.  And, these metrics are used to evaluate the student.</p>
<p>To an Aspie/Autie student, this can be an important revelation.  It is not an intuitive leap, to conclude this, because we usually believe what we are told &#8211; and from the earliest age, we are told that the point of school is to learn.  But, of course, it isn&#8217;t!  The point of school is to PROVE what we have learned&#8230; There is no place in school for &#8216;learning&#8217; without proving (through earning marks) that/what one has learned.</p>
<p>Explaining that the point of doing assignments is to &#8216;earn points/marks&#8217; can be liberating for an Aspie student.  After all, &#8216;getting on the high-score board&#8217; is possible, even if one has not yet &#8216;defeated the boss&#8217;!</p>
<p>Once this groundwork has been laid, it is important to explain both the teacher&#8217;s goals for this assignment (what the teacher will be measuring for the needed metrics) and the student&#8217;s goals (what bits of what will earn points/marks).   This bit can be hard on teachers, because they have to explain both the explicit goals and the implied ones &#8211; most teachers do not go through this step explicitly themselves.</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; most assignments at the grade 7 level come with a &#8216;marking rubric&#8217;.  At least, in my area they do.  But these are so filled with vague notions and &#8216;weasel-words&#8217; that they are worse than useless!  &#8221;The student demonstrated some understanding&#8230;. The student demonstrated good understanding&#8230;&#8221;  What the hell does THAT mean?</p>
<p>What is the difference between &#8216;little&#8217; and &#8216;some&#8217; and &#8216;good&#8217; and &#8216;excellent&#8217; in this context &#8211; and HOW is it measured?</p>
<p>Obviously, I can tell that &#8216;excellent&#8217; will get a higher grade than &#8216;poor&#8217; &#8211; but how do I know what demonstrates &#8216;excellent&#8217; and what demonstrates &#8216;poor&#8217; &#8211; or any of the other non-specific terms used &#8211; in this particular instance, to the satisfaction of this particular teacher?</p>
<p>If the teacher cannot stand there and provide a specific, accurate answer on how the grading will be done &#8211; how can the student be expected to guess what expectations to perform to?</p>
<p>This is so much easier for maths and sciences.  When a teacher assigns a problem, the student knows not just WHAT &#8216;the right answer is&#8217; &#8211; she/he knows what form the answer is to take.</p>
<p>This is woefully not true of &#8216;soft&#8217; subjects.  Not only do different teachers consider completely different &#8216;things&#8217; to be &#8216;the right&#8217; answer (try writing up interpretation of renaissance poetry for a &#8216;born-again&#8217; teacher), the format itself is undefined&#8230;.  Yet you are judged how your performance measures up to something the teacher cannot quantitatively define:  expectations!</p>
<p>It seems criminal that &#8216;educators&#8217; are blind to this&#8230;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am an Aspie. I am married to an Aspie. We have two sons &#8211; both of whom have been identified as Aspies. Not surprisingly, I have some opinions about Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome and all the facets of life which affect Aspies. Every now and then, I have written about the &#8216;Aspie experience&#8217; and some of the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=xanthippaonaspergers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8055978&amp;post=111&amp;subd=xanthippaonaspergers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>I am an Aspie.</p>
<p>I am married to an Aspie.</p>
<p>We have two sons &#8211; both of whom have been identified as Aspies.</p>
<p>Not surprisingly, I have some opinions about <a title="My blog on Aspie stuff" href="http://xanthippaonaspergers.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome</a> and all the facets of life which affect Aspies.</p>
<p>Every now and then, I have written about the &#8216;Aspie experience&#8217; and some of the tools I developed to help myself and my sons.  Judging from the bog stats, I really ought to focus more on this &#8211; aside from a few  posts (Aisha Ibrahim Dhuhulow and some of the sharia write-ups I&#8217;d posted).</p>
<p>Today, I got a most gratifying comment on a post I had written a while back about <a title="my post" href="http://blog.xanthippas.com/2008/04/29/aspergers-and-writing/" target="_blank">Aspergers and Writing</a>.  I know, it is a serious self indulgence to wallow in praise, but, if refreshing the post with a new link to this fresh post helps more Aspies, I&#8217;m willing to take the flack!</p>
<p>Here is the comment:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>I just found your blog.  Wow, wish I had seen this a long time ago.  It should be required reading for all special ed teachers.  My son was not diagnosed until the end of 10th grade (after failing English when previously a straight A student), and we have endured an often contentious relationship with the school&#8217;s special ed coordinator and the school psychologist during that time and since.  At the end of his 11th grade year we had the IEP meeting, during which the first one asked him, &#8220;can&#8217;t you just write something to get it done?&#8221;, and the latter called him a snob.  And this is a year down the road!!!  It&#8217;s clear that too many of the people that are supposed to be caring for our children in the public school environment are woefully undereducated, and  some also lack the empathy that the unfamiliar accuse the Aspies of not having.  We finally found a teacher in the school who undertstands Aspies (and who admitted privately that she cringed at those statements during the<br />
meeting), and she is wonderful.  My question is why didn&#8217;t they allow us access to her last year, when my son had to be assisted by a special education &#8220;clerk,&#8221; who had no conception of his difficulties or abilites,  who badgered him with &#8220;do you want to fail?&#8221; comments, and who evidently never bothered to pick up a book and learn about it during that time.  I guarantee you, from my now huge Aspie book library, I know more about the condition than either of the people in that school that were allowed to make decisions about my son&#8217;s education, or the person that was directly working with him.  If they had read your post, which would take about 5 minutes, they would have understood.  I think you have explained exactly the problem from the Aspie side&#8211;I think this is what my son has been trying to explain to them for 2 years.  So, anyone else with problems with the school:  number one, don&#8217;t take it as long as I did, and don&#8217;t assume the people in charge will advocate for your child;<br />
number two, print some information from this blog and give it to every teacher, the special ed department, and the principal.  You want to know a funny thing?  My son was one of about 15 kids in the county that was nominated for a National Merit Award due to his test scores on the PSAT (no writing portion, of course).  To apply for the award, the student must write an essay!!!!  He decided to write it about not being able to write essays due to the Asperger&#8217;s, and about his difficulties at school due to this.  Somehow I doubt he&#8217;ll win, but good for him.  Thanks for explaining something so difficult so well, and I appreciate the time it takes you, trust me!!!!</em></p></blockquote>
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		<title>Aspergers and writing: &#8216;build&#8217;, not just &#8216;revise&#8217;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cross-posted from Xanthippa&#8217;s Chamberpot (where the comment which this post is in response to was received). &#8216;Everyone&#8217; who is familiar with Aspies knows that most of us struggle with writing. Not all of us &#8211; Aspergers affects each person a little differently and to a different degree.  And, it affects males and females a little [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=xanthippaonaspergers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8055978&amp;post=109&amp;subd=xanthippaonaspergers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Cross-posted from<a title="Xanthippa's Chamberpot" href="http://blog.xanthippas.com/2010/06/26/aspergers-and-writing-build-not-just-revise/" target="_blank"> Xanthippa&#8217;s Chamberpot</a> (where the comment which this post is in response to was received).</em></p>
<p>&#8216;Everyone&#8217; who is familiar with Aspies knows that most of us struggle with writing.</p>
<p>Not all of us &#8211; Aspergers affects each person a little differently and to a different degree.  And, it affects males and females a little differently, too.  Perhaps that is why my post <a title="post by me" href="http://blog.xanthippas.com/2008/04/29/aspergers-and-writing/" target="_blank"> &#8216;Aspergers and writing&#8217; </a>continues to get so many hits.</p>
<p>Today, I got a comment on it which raises something important.  That is why I&#8217;m posting this comment &#8211; and my quick reply to it &#8211; as its own post here:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Your comments about perfectionism and the difficulty Aspies have in putting words to paper make me wonder if this is why it’s so difficult for Aspies to revise what they’ve written: that once they get something down on paper they have committed their ideas to writing and there is no other way to put it. As a writing teacher, I often run into a wall when I ask my Aspie students to revise and I wonder if you think this explanation is accurate.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>My response was:</p>
<p>I think that you are on the right track. I would like to nuance it slightly, if I may.</p>
<p>There are several things going on.</p>
<p>It is not that the Aspie may not be able to think of different words to put things into: it may be true at some times, byt certainly not at others. For example, many Aspies are very verbal – and they can say things out loud in many, many different ways. As a matter of fact, you may have a hard time shutting them up – they’ll describe the same things in so many ways.</p>
<p>The problem comes whith ‘investing’ into writing the words down. They have been ‘selected’ and ‘sweated over’ – why do you want to change them?</p>
<p>This constant ‘revision’ most writing teachers insist is part of ‘proper writing’ reduces me to white-hot fury! It it’s worth writing down, it’s worth doing it RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!</p>
<p>Once an Aspie HAS written something down and you are asking them to ‘revise’ it – you are asking them to take something that is ‘right’ and change it….obviously, if you take something that is ‘right’ and change it, you make it ‘wrong’! Then, when they hand in the version you forced them to change from ‘right’ to ‘wrong’, you give them a bad mark…</p>
<p>No wonder we don’t want to ‘revise’!</p>
<p>OK – that was the ‘emotional’ response.</p>
<p>Now, for more ‘reasoning’….</p>
<p>There is a problem – an actual physical problem in the neural connections – in the brain which makes it difficult for MOST (not all – we are all individuals), especially male, Aspies to write. Physically write.</p>
<p>Forcing us to ‘write’ and endlessly re-write the same sentences over and over is mental torture to us. It rubs our noses in our failure. So, we avoid it like the plague. If it’s a computer file, we’ll be less freaked out by it. But asking us to hand-copy out the same bits over because other bits had changed is unreasonable.</p>
<p>I actually can tell – byt the style of writning – if something I ‘produced’ was first spoken and then trans-scribed/typed into the computer, or if I wrote it on a piece of paper in longhand and then typed it into the computer, or if I directly typed it into the computer. Honestly, my sentence structure and syntax are significantly different in each one of these styles of ‘writing’. Perhaps you could experiment with your students on this theme….</p>
<p>But!</p>
<p>This is the way I helped my kids ‘get over’ the whole ‘revision aversion’ (I could not very well undermine the teacher, right?).</p>
<p>I explain that the teacher is trying to teach them how to build a piece of writing ‘from the ground up’. It is a particular methodology to teach, and marks are awarded at each stage: sort of like when you learn to swim, they first teach you to put your face in the water and only later want to see you perform the full butterfly stroke…</p>
<p>So – first ‘version’ is NOT supposed to be ‘a written story’ or ‘a written essay’.</p>
<p>Instead, organize your thoughts and put 1-2 words for each paragraph: enough to ‘record’ the ‘main idea’ or ‘main thrust’ of what this will say. This will be handed in as ‘brainstorming’ – teacher needs to get it to keep a record of it, so they can prove what they gave you the marks for if someone audits their work.</p>
<p>On the next ‘version’, you go to each one of the paragraphs and put in 1-2 words for each sentence you will write in the finished piece. Check that each paragraph still has the same ‘focus’ as the ‘brainstorming’. This will be first draft – again, marks, teacher keeps for records…</p>
<p>In between each step, take the teacher’s feedback and incorporate it in – again, this needs to show up. It’s the teacher’s job to give you feedback, so it’s important for the records they keep to reflect it. If you don’t, they’ll think they are not teaching you right, be sad, not like your work….pick your sentiment.</p>
<p>On the next ‘version’, you write BARE sentences for the 1-2 word things. Make sure all ideas are there, but not really all the descriptions, and not nicely or fancily. You’re hitting the highlights. That is the next draft.</p>
<p>Finally, you take your draft and connect up things, dress up the sentences, and so on.</p>
<p>It’s a method of constructing something. Teachers must document they taught it to you.</p>
<p>This way, you’ll show how you built the written piece. It’s not so much ‘revision’ or ‘revising’ it – that is a very poor label for this. But, that is the label we are stuck with.</p>
<p>Does this help explain the thought process?</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 18:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you read my blog, you are probably aware that I have a strong interest in Asperger’s Sydrome:  I am an Aspie, I am married to an Aspie, both my children are Aspies, most of my friends are, if not full-Aspies, at least ‘almost-Aspies. Hence the interest. Or, perhaps, obsession… While I like to explain [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=xanthippaonaspergers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8055978&amp;post=106&amp;subd=xanthippaonaspergers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you read my blog, you are probably aware that I have a strong interest in Asperger’s Sydrome:  I am an Aspie, I am married to an Aspie, both my children are Aspies, most of my friends are, if not full-Aspies, at least ‘almost-Aspies.</p>
<p>Hence the interest.</p>
<p><a title="Xanthippa on Aspergers" href="http://xanthippaonaspergers.wordpress.com/">Or, perhaps, obsession…</a></p>
<p>While I like to explain that <a title="Wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome" target="_blank">Asperger’s</a> is to <a title="Wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism" target="_blank">Autism</a> like ‘wearing glasses’ is to ‘being blind’, it is an Autism spectrum disorder, there is some overlap (OK – I’d have to  go on a tangent to explain this ‘right’:  let it suffice (for here) that both Autism and Asperger’s have the same ‘thing’ which affects how the brain is wired ‘differently’, but the difference is that each affects a different bit of the brain….some people have a bit of ‘re-wiring’ in both areas – thus, the overlap).  So, I am always paying attention when I hear about both…</p>
<p>So, I was quite interested when I heard that the Ottawa Police were doing some sort of a pilot project to do with interacting with members of our community who are Autistic or have Asperger’s Syndrome.  Thanks go to <a title="Eli El-Chantiry" href="http://www.ottawa.ca/city_hall/mayor_council/councillors/e_elchantiry_en.html" target="_blank">my favourite Ottawa City Councillor</a>, <a title="Wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_El-Chantiry" target="_blank">Eli El-Chantiry</a>, for getting me in touch with the people running the pilot project.</p>
<p><a title="Ottawa Police Autism registry" href="http://www.ottawapolice.ca/en/Community/Autism/AutismRegistry.aspx" target="_blank">It looks excellent!</a></p>
<p>This – in a nutshell – is what it is about…</p>
<p>When a call comes in to the ’911′ emergency service, the operator pulls up the info on the address where the call is coming from:</p>
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<li>the address</li>
<li>map</li>
<li>other relevant info (like the much reviled gun registry, and so on)</li>
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<p>A person who looks after an Autie or an Aspie (or the Autie/Aspie themselves) can register in this program.  When they do this, the ‘relevant information’ will include some information about the Autie/Aspie that lives there.</p>
<p>This can save lives!</p>
<p>The information can be, say, there is a small Autistic boy who fears loud noises.  If there is a fire alarm, he is likely to hide under the bed or in the closet.  Only answers to ‘Xxx’ nickname….  Touching him makes him panic.</p>
<p>Or, it can say something like ‘this is a group home for adult Auties.  These are their names, this is how they react to being agitated,’ and so on.</p>
<p>Information is power.</p>
<p>When emergency responders are walking into a situation where they know they will encounter a person who is not fully functional – and, the stress of emergency situations does often push ‘partially functional’ people (especially kids) into a non-functional state – they will be able to do their job better.</p>
<p>This Autism Registry pilot program harnesses the power of information into better helping vulnerable people in emergency situations.  Into saving live.</p>
<p>I liked what I learned about the program so much, I offered to help out as best I can.  And, perhaps, there may be a tiny role I can play.</p>
<p>One way I – and you – can help is to <a title="Ottawa Police Autism Registry" href="http://www.ottawapolice.ca/en/Community/Autism/AutismRegistry.aspx" target="_blank">‘spread the word’</a>!</p>
<p>If you know someone in the City of Ottawa who would benefit from registering – tell them.</p>
<p>If you live outside of Ottawa, tell your police department to check out this pilot project in Ottawa.  The model is highly portable – perhaps your community would benefit from something similar!</p>
<p><em>Cross-posted from <a title="Xanthippas.com" href="http://blog.xanthippas.com/2010/05/20/autism-registry-a-pilot-project-by-ottawa-police/" target="_blank">Xanthippa&#8217;s Chamberpot</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>ADD, Aspergers and the &#8216;cannot-put-weight-on-foot&#8217; syndrome</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is not a &#8216;medical theory&#8217; or even an &#8216;expert hypothesis&#8217;,  just my own thoughts and ideas.  Still, I do suspect that ADD/ADHD and Asperges are both a type of &#8216;cannot-put-weight-on-foot&#8217; syndrome: Let us do a &#8216;thought experiment&#8217;&#8230; You come to see your doctor because you can&#8217;t put any weight on one of your feet, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=xanthippaonaspergers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8055978&amp;post=103&amp;subd=xanthippaonaspergers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not a &#8216;medical theory&#8217; or even an &#8216;expert hypothesis&#8217;,  just my own thoughts and ideas.  Still, I do suspect that<a title="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention-deficit_hyperactivity_disorder" target="_blank"> ADD/ADHD</a> and<a title="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspergers" target="_blank"> Asperges</a> are both a type of<em><strong> &#8216;cannot-put-weight-on-foot&#8217;</strong> syndrome</em>:</p>
<p>Let us do a &#8216;thought experiment&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>You come to see your doctor because you can&#8217;t put any weight on one of your feet, and you want your doctors to help you.  They run their &#8216;standard tests&#8217; and diagnoses you with &#8216;cannot-put-weight-on-foot&#8217; (CPWOF) syndrome.    You are told that predicting the success of the treatment is difficult, because different approaches work for different people.<br />
Some people are lucky and the CPWOF syndrome goes away on its own &#8211; they &#8216;grow out of it&#8217;.  For others, there is a variety of treatments they can try, hoping one will work.</p>
<p>They can try icing it &#8211; perhaps even using a brace to support it.</p>
<p>They might try hot baths in salty water, perhaps rubbing in some antibiotic ointment.</p>
<p>Some people respond well to pain medication.  Or, anti-inflammatory drugs&#8230;</p>
<p>Or other &#8216;stuff&#8217;.</p>
<p>Or nothing.</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s try cycling through the treatments!</p>
<p>By now, you may have guessed that the &#8216;standard tests&#8217; are questionnaires to be filled out by your family, perhaps teachers, for their observations of how you walk.  Pages and pages of questions like:</p>
<p>Does he favour his foot: all the time, most of the time, some of the time, a little bit of the time, never.  Circle the answer that fits best&#8230;.</p>
<p>If they want &#8216;hard metrics&#8217; &#8211; you know, &#8216;scientific data&#8217; &#8211; they may ask you to put your foot on a scale and put as much of your weight on it as you can manage.  That will give them &#8216;a hard number&#8217; to work with!</p>
<p>Of course, this diagnosis does not differentiate between the &#8217;causes&#8217; of CPWOF syndrome.    The syndrome itself is so fascinating, they want to take a &#8216;whole-istic&#8217; (chuckle at their own little joke) approach to it and not get bogged down in the details of &#8217;causes&#8217;.  (Translation: they don&#8217;t know and don&#8217;t care.  They have a &#8216;name&#8217; for it and a bunch of treatments to try, and that&#8217;s enough&#8230;)</p>
<p>To make a long story short &#8211; whether you cannot put weight on your foot because you sprained your ankle or broke your femur or got a rusty nail stuck in your heel &#8211; or, if  your foot got eaten by some piranhas that somehow got lost and ended up in your bathtub while you were soaking in it &#8211; it does not matter.  You have &#8216;cannot-put-weight-on-foot&#8217; syndrome!</p>
<p>(I also secretly suspect that many immune system diseases and disorders, limbic system illnesses and brain chemistry imbalances are also one form of CPWOF syndrome or another&#8230;a &#8216;label&#8217; hung onto a collection of &#8216;similar&#8217; symptoms, regardless of their root causes.  I also suspect that this interferes with proper analysis of &#8216;problems&#8217; where one set of root causes can present as a very diverse variety of external symptoms.  This then would, I suspect, prevent correct diagnosis and even preclude a search for any effective treatment&#8230;)</p>
<p>In other words, I think that diagnosing someone with &#8216;ADD&#8217; or &#8216;Aspergers&#8217; is like diagnosing them with a &#8216;headache&#8217; &#8211; and treating all headaches as if they were &#8216;the same thing&#8217;, regardless of whether it is caused by migranes, having been hit in the head by a baseball, a tumour or having over-indulged in alcohol&#8230;or any other billion possible causes for a &#8216;headache&#8217;.</p>
<p>So, what is it that this &#8216;headache&#8217;, this CPWOF of Aspergers and ADD/ADHD is?  Instead of &#8216;not being able to put weight on foot&#8217;, we  have<em><a title="Me - Xanthippa - on Aspergers and a world with 'fewer filters'" href="http://xanthippaonaspergers.wordpress.com/2009/09/24/aspergers-a-world-with-fewer-filters/" target="_blank"> &#8216;malfunctioning filters&#8217;</a></em>.  But, I am getting ahead of myself&#8230;</p>
<p>In order to be diagnosed with Aspergers, one has to first be diagnosed with ADD/ADHD.  As in, everyone who has Aspergers has ADD/ADHD, but not everyone who has ADD/ADHD has Aspergers.  Therefore, it seems reasonable to see if there &#8216;is&#8217; some &#8216;common mechanism&#8217; to both conditions which differs from &#8216;the norm&#8217;.</p>
<p>This, then, is my hypothesis:</p>
<p>Both disorders/conditions could be caused by a break-down/partial development/some interference with the same &#8216;system&#8217; in our brain and which could be described as:  fewer &#8216;filters&#8217;, less conscious control over &#8216;filters&#8217;.</p>
<p>The difference is that in ADD/ADHD, only the sensory filters are broken.  In Aspergers, these also don&#8217;t work, but, there are others that are also broken.  And this is what leads to more pervasive disorders, problems, challenges &#8211; whatever you want to call them.</p>
<p>What do I mean by &#8216;sensory filters&#8217;?</p>
<p>One simple experiment that just about everyone I know has tried in one form or another is the whole putting one hand into cold water, the other into warm water.  At first, we will have strong sensations that one hand is &#8216;cold&#8217; and the other is &#8216;hot&#8217;.  But, as time goes on, this will be less and less &#8211; the signal will diminish in strength over time, until we will &#8216;get used to&#8217; the temperatures.  Then, when we take our hands out of the water and touch them to each other, we&#8217;ll be amazed at the temperature difference between them when our brain is telling us both are &#8216;fine&#8217;&#8230;.</p>
<p>That is an example of &#8216;sensory filters&#8217; at work.</p>
<p>More simple examples:</p>
<p>We feel &#8216;clothing&#8217; as we got dressed &#8211; but we are not consciously aware of every bit of clothing touching every bit of our skin at all times while we are wearing the clothes.</p>
<p>We may hear the furnace/air conditioner is on when we enter a room, but, after being in it for a while, we hardly notice its noise in the background&#8230;</p>
<p>People often over-apply perfume, because after they have been wearing it for a while, they do not smell it as much and keep re-applying more and more, increasing the &#8216;dose&#8217; in order to get the same <em>level of sensory input reporting it</em>.</p>
<p>This is how our &#8216;filters&#8217; ought to function.  And, most &#8216;normal&#8217; or &#8216;neurotypical&#8217; people have lots of these &#8216;filters&#8217;, in various strengths.</p>
<p>In ADD/ADHD people, it is as if there were way fewer of these &#8216;filters&#8217;.  Instead of, say, 100 (from weakest to strongest), we might have 20.</p>
<p>Or 3.</p>
<p>Or just 2:   100% &#8216;on&#8217; and 100% &#8216;off&#8217;!</p>
<p>(Not all people with ADD/ADHD will have ALL their filters broken.  Some individuals may have &#8216;fewer&#8217; filters in one specific area, others may have fewer &#8216;across the board&#8217;.  And, for some, it seems as if the &#8216;filters&#8217; existed &#8211; but were only accessible at some times while totally off-line and unavailable at other times&#8230;.which would drive their teachers and parents absolutely nuts about &#8216;inconsistencies in behaviour&#8217;! )</p>
<p>So, if the filter were 100% &#8216;on&#8217;, people might be calling your name, the fire alarm might be on, but, since you are reading a book and the rest of your &#8216;filters&#8217; is &#8217;100% on&#8217;, you honestly do not hear any of it.</p>
<p>The &#8216;neat&#8217; thing &#8211; the one that made me think of this as &#8216;filters&#8217; rather than anything else &#8211; is that you actually DO perceive the sounds physically.  It&#8217;s just that the brain sticks the information that you perceived the sound into a &#8216;buffer&#8217; &#8211; and leaves it there unless you specifically try to retrieve it.  Then it is a toss up as to whether the buffer has been &#8216;wiped&#8217; or whether you can access the info held in it.</p>
<p>My younger son, for example, would not react to sounds as an infant &#8211; sometimes.  Not even the &#8216;flinch&#8217; which babies are supposed to have (say, when we are getting to 8 months of age and so on) when a loud sound happens directly behind them.  He had absolutely <em>no reaction</em>.  Yet at other times he obviously found even moderate sounds painfully loud&#8230;</p>
<p>Now, when he does not respond to what I say &#8211; not even aware of me talking to him &#8211; and I get his attention, I can ask him &#8216;what did I say&#8217;.  He says he doesn&#8217;t know.  I ask him to&#8217; re-play it&#8217;.  He does.  He can repeat it word per word perfectly.</p>
<p>Only after he repeats it does he comprehend it!</p>
<p>Weird, but true.</p>
<p>My husband has the same thing&#8230;..as does my dad.</p>
<p>With Aspergers, these same malfunctions with &#8216;filters&#8217; &#8211; or, perhaps &#8216;missing filters&#8217; also exist.  But, rather than just sensory ones (that drive one to distraction at one point while make them oblivious to their surroundings the next moment), the filters on feelings and emotions and &#8211; hormones &#8211; are similarly not all there, or broken, or whatever.  (And, having problems with &#8216;both sets&#8217; it is sometimes difficult to tell where the dividing line &#8216;ought to lie&#8217;&#8230;)</p>
<p>So, it is easy for Aspies to get &#8216;overwhelmed&#8217; by emotion and adrenalin, because where a neurotypical (NT) person would feel a gradual rise in these, we don&#8217;t.  The floodgates are either down &#8211; and we &#8216;appear cold, unfeeling and un-empathetic&#8217; or they are all the way up and we are &#8216;out of control&#8217;.  Total meltdown.</p>
<p>Many of us learn to develop various ways of &#8216;shutting down&#8217; as a self-protection from this overwhelming flood&#8230;.because this flood is often accompanied with adrenalin flood (we panic from being emotionally overwhelmed, which releases the adrenalin&#8230;).</p>
<p>This is bad.</p>
<p>Not only does it shut down our brain functions like, say, thinking, it also leaves us physically ill from the overpowering adrenalin rush. We get clammy and shaky and icky inside and out.</p>
<p>And most Aspies really, really, really do not like this feeling.  A lot.</p>
<p>What many people don&#8217;t understand is that  it is not just &#8216;negative&#8217; stuff that can trigger this reaction.  &#8217;Positive&#8217; emotions and feelings are just as dangerous to Aspies and their end-result is just as unpleasant and uncomfortable &#8211; at times quite painful, physically!</p>
<p>So, as we grow up and try to cope with this world (!),  we try to learn how to avoid &#8216;emotionality&#8217;, even on a sub-conscious level.</p>
<p>If you know people with ADD/ADHD and/or Aspergers &#8211; or if you happen to be one yourself &#8211; please, try to see your experiences through the prism of my little hypothesis.  Then, whether it &#8216;makes sense&#8217; or not &#8211; or any other observations you might have about this, please, let me know through the comments.  Pooling our observations and analysis might, perhaps, help us help each other!</p>
<p><a title="Xanthippa's Chamberpot" href="http://blog.xanthippas.com/2010/02/24/add-aspergers-and-the-cannot-put-weight-on-foot-syndrome/" target="_blank">(Cross-posted from Xanthippa&#8217;s Chamberpot)</a></p>
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		<title>AlpineKat: Black Hole Rap</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Cross posted from<a title="My other blog" href="http://blog.xanthippas.com/2009/10/07/section-131-and-aspergers/" target="_blank"> &#8216;Xanthippa&#8217;s Chamberpot&#8217;</a>:</em></p>
<p>OK &#8211; this is a topic that people who know me have had to listen to me rant on and on and on&#8230;.</p>
<p>And, I have tried to write it up &#8211; and have at least 18 drafts to prove it&#8230;</p>
<p>Because&#8230; this is something SOOO IMPORTANT that it deserves the most perfectest write up ever!</p>
<p>Because&#8230; this shows an internal inconsistency in the Section 13(1) of the Canadian Human Rights Code &#8211; the &#8216;Hate Speech&#8217; bit!</p>
<p>It clearly demonstrates that Section 13(1) is in contravention of itself!!!</p>
<p>That, if I my layman&#8217;s understanding of our legal system holds, would render the whole thing illegal.  After all, a law may not contravene itself, may it?</p>
<p>Yesterday, I got a<a title="Comment on my post" href="http://blog.xanthippas.com/2009/10/06/letter-to-my-member-of-parliament/#comments" target="_blank"> comment</a> on my <a title="my post" href="http://blog.xanthippas.com/2009/10/06/letter-to-my-member-of-parliament/" target="_blank">last post</a>, which said exactly the same thing I had been ranting on and on about.  (The comment, not the post &#8211; well, the post, too, but that is implied.)</p>
<p>Actually, I read it out loud to my husband, who thought I was reading <em>my</em> words, so close was the sentiment!</p>
<blockquote><p><em> Hi Xanthippa. </em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><em>Your blog has got me thinking… Perhaps we Aspies particularly resent censorship boards like Canada’s because we are used to “saying it like it is”, speaking the truth (as we see it) bluntly and plainly, and not being stopped by thin-skinned people taking offence. Aspies can’t detect _likely_ offence in advance, and if we played it safe and avoided all _possible_ offence, we’d never say anything!</em></p>
<p><em>Whereas those who support Canada’s state censorship system are probably neurotypicals who are good at treading their way carefully, taking cues from context. They have picked up, for example, that joking about assassinating President Bush is “brave dissent” while joking about assassinating President Obama is “racist hate speech” that will get you visited by the FBI.Aspies like to have the rules laid out clearly, neutrally and consistently. They/ we don’t like implications, winks and nods, and “It just is, okay?!” So you get someone like Ezra Levant (almost certainly an Aspie) asking why the Emperor has no clothes, why Canada’s censorship rules are applied differently to Christians and Muslims, and a lot of people regard him with distaste: he’s rude, he’s offensive, he’s loud, he’s rocking the boat, he “just doesn’t get it”.</em></p>
<p><em>Perhaps Section 13 could be struck down as discriminating on basis of a disability, do you think</em><em>?</em></p>
<p><em> </em></p></blockquote>
<p><strong> That is exactly correct!  I&#8217;ve been ranting on this for years!</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><strong>*  * </strong><strong>* </strong></p>
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<p><a title="CHRC" href="http://www.chrc-ccdp.ca/proactive_initiatives/hoi_hsi/qa_qr/page1-en.asp" target="_blank">Section 13(1) of the Canadian Human Rights Code</a> is the &#8216;hate speech&#8217; section which has, lately, been applied to silence people with unpopular views.  The key bit of the wording is that a person is forbidden from communicating anything which could <strong>potentially give offense to someone</strong> or a group.  No, not &#8216;just anyone&#8217; &#8211; only people who are members of &#8216;protected groups&#8217;.</p>
<p>In other words,<strong> it is illegal</strong>, in Canada,<strong> to communicate anything that might offend</strong> people, based on their sex, race, religion, disabilities, sexual orientation, and so on, or stigmatize them, or is likely to increase &#8216;general hate&#8217; against them.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">*  *  *</p>
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<p>Now, let us look at  the diagnostic criteria for Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome (an Autism-spectrum disorder):</p>
<p><a title="Aspies for Freedom" href="http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthread.php?tid=3244" target="_blank">Aspies For Freedom</a> (an Asperger&#8217;s support group) lists, among others:</p>
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<ul>
<li> Criterion A. Severe and sustained impairment in social interaction</li>
<li>Criterion C. The disturbance must cause clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.</li>
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<p><a title="About.com" href="http://autism.about.com/od/aspergerssyndrome/f/dxcriteriaforas.htm" target="_blank">About.com</a> tells us that</p>
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<blockquote><p>&#8220;The essential features of Asperger&#8217;s Disorder are severe and sustained impairment in social interaction&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;  The disturbance must cause clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Dr. Leo Kanner, a psychiatrist at Hopkins and a recognized authority on Asperger, wrote in &#8216;Journal of Neurology, Neurosurgery &amp; Psychiatry with Practical Neurology&#8217; about &#8216;Aspergers&#8217;:</p>
<blockquote><p>It is characterised by impairments in reciprocal social interaction and communication</p></blockquote>
<p>I could go on, in a typically Aspie obsessive manner&#8230; but, you get the picture.  Aspies (people with Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome usually prefer the nomicker &#8216;Aspies&#8217; &#8211; it is less cumbersome) have a neurological disorder, which prevents us from having &#8216;normal&#8217; social interactions.</p>
<p>We cannot tell when we are boring you.</p>
<p>We cannot tell when what we are saying is offensive to you.</p>
<p>We cannot tell if people are so fed up with us, they are about to loose their patience and beat us to a bloody pulp, because we have just said something they consider &#8216;insensitive&#8217; or &#8216;offensive&#8217;.</p>
<p>We think the rest of the world ought to get over themselves and their stupid emotionalism and its burdensome public display and grow up!  (And get some logic, while they&#8217;re at it.)</p>
<p>We also lack the ability to &#8216;believe&#8217;.</p>
<p>Oh, we can accept rules &#8211; and love to adhere to them scrupulously.  So, Aspies CAN <em>follow religions</em>.  We just<em> can&#8217;t believe in them</em>.</p>
<p>We can take some God(s)&#8217;s existence &#8216;as given&#8217; or &#8216;pre-defined parameter&#8217; &#8211; but not as an &#8216;article of faith&#8217; to be &#8216;believed&#8217;.  There IS a difference.</p>
<p>Despite what some clinicians think, we CAN accept &#8216;alternate realities&#8217; (make-believe) &#8211; as long as it is presented as a concept (not &#8216;truth&#8217; &#8211; but a &#8216;different game&#8217;) and is internally self-consistent.  That  is why we love Spock (the first &#8216;real&#8217; Aspie character on TV who was not a villain &#8211; at least, not intended to be perceived as a villain, even though his appearance followed an &#8216;evil-man&#8217; archetype) and why we CAN accept alternate reality rules.</p>
<p>But we recognize them to be &#8216;non-real&#8217;.  And &#8211; naturally &#8211; we say so.  Especially when somebody is wrong and thinks it is &#8216;real&#8217;.</p>
<p>It is our responsibility to educate them!  To do any less would be insulting to them&#8230;</p>
<p>We are especially good at pointing out internal inconsistencies &#8211; within belief systems, &#8216;holy&#8217; books (scriptures), the behaviour of clerics vs. the tenets of their faith and all kinds of things like that.  Good<strong> and</strong> persistent!</p>
<p>And THAT is why so many Aspies earn the wrath of religious people&#8230;.. because we will never understand why it is OK to correct someone&#8217;s misconceptions regarding physic or mathematics, but not regarding bronze-age myths and demonstrable reality.</p>
<p>Actually &#8211; any age myths&#8230;</p>
<p>With our lack of social skills and inability to &#8216;take things on faith&#8217; &#8211; both conditions are documented as being biologically based and not something we can just change because we want to &#8211; we are BOUND to offend a lot of people. Or, so I am told.  Especially with all that religious nonsense!  And I mean NON-SENSE!!!  As defined&#8230;</p>
<p>(Is this a good demonstration?  I hope so&#8230; I was trying to convey the understanding of our internal thought processes&#8230;.)</p>
<p>I suppose it would be a fair parallel to describe Aspies as<strong> &#8216;offensiveness-deaf</strong>&#8216;!  And, this disability is a well documented, recognized medical condition.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;">*  *  *</p>
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<p>Ah &#8211; but our constitution states that no person shall be discriminated against on the grounds of a medical disability!</p>
<p>Would it be legal to pass a law that penalizes people for not standing when the National Anthem is played &#8211; even if they were deaf and did not hear it?  Or of they were a paraplegic or otherwise disabled and unable to stand?</p>
<p>Would passing such laws, which punish people because they have a disability, be tolerated if that disability were anything other than Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome?</p>
<p>NO!  IT WOULD NOT!</p>
<p>We would not tolerate such laws!  And, our constitution specifically forbids discrimination on these grounds!</p>
<p><strong>Yet, Section 13(1) is a blatant and shameful discrimination against people who have a medical disability which prevents us from knowing when we are likely to &#8216;give offense&#8217;!!!</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><strong> *  *  *</strong></p>
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<p>OK &#8211; this is where I tie it all together&#8230;.bear with me, please, I&#8217;m almost there.<strong> </strong></p>
<blockquote><p>1.  Section 13(1) makes it illegal to communicate anything which &#8216;is likely to offend&#8217; or stigmatize a group or individuals (on &#8216;protected grounds&#8217;), or expose someone to hate.</p>
<p>2.  One such &#8216;protected ground&#8217; is &#8216;medical disability&#8217;.</p>
<p>3.  Asperger&#8217;s syndrome is a medical disability, whose defining characteristic is an inability to successfully socially interact with others:  in other words, rude and offensive behaviour is an invountary symptom (and even a diagnostic criterion) of this medical condition.  As such, Aspies cannot tell if they are &#8216;likely to offend&#8217;, just as deaf people cannot hear and react to sounds, or just like people cannot significantly change the amount of pigment in their skin!  By just existing, we are &#8216;likely to give offense&#8217;!</p>
<p>4.  Therefore, <strong>Section 13(1) makes it a criminal offense to live with this specific medical disability!</strong></p>
<p>5.  By criminalizing our very existence, Section 13(1) seriously stigmatizes Aspies, simply because of how we were born! It is very likely that we, as an identifiable and protected group, will be stigmatized and we are likely to be exposed to hate, as a direct result of the existence of Section 13(1).</p>
<p>6.   However, Section 13(1) forbids anyone or anything to stigmatize a group on protected grounds, or expose anyone to hate &#8211; and having Asperger&#8217;s IS a &#8216;protected ground&#8217;!</p>
<p>7.  That is an internal inconsistency.</p>
<p>8.  Therefore, Section 13(1) is in contravention of itself.</p></blockquote>
<p>Q.E.D.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[One constant criticism Aspies (and, perhaps, others with ADD/ADHD) face is that their &#8216;reactions&#8217; are &#8216;inconsistent&#8217;. One day, an Aspie can scream so loudly its unbearable, at another time that same Aspie may cover her ears and complain of even moderately loud sounds as &#8216;painful&#8217;.  A few minutes later, the Aspie claims not to have [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=xanthippaonaspergers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8055978&amp;post=91&amp;subd=xanthippaonaspergers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One constant criticism Aspies (and, perhaps, others with ADD/ADHD) face is that their &#8216;reactions&#8217; are &#8216;inconsistent&#8217;.</p>
<p>One day, an Aspie can scream so loudly its unbearable, at another time that same Aspie may cover her ears and complain of even moderately loud sounds as &#8216;painful&#8217;.  A few minutes later, the Aspie claims not to have heard that a set of instructions was given out, even though the instructions were spoken clearly and everyone else &#8216;got&#8217; them.</p>
<p>How come?</p>
<p>&#8216;Obviously&#8217;, the Aspie was being <em>manipulative </em>and <em>faking</em>, because either their ears are sensitive, or they are not! <strong><em> Right?</em></strong></p>
<p>Aspies are also often suspected of being manipulative in &#8216;faking pain&#8217; by over-reacting in a theatrical manner to even slight bumbps or accidental brushes &#8211; but, they can then withstand great pain without seemingly noticing it while they are playing a videogame.  &#8217;Obviously&#8217;, this kid has a high pain threshold &#8211; so why the theatrics when someone steps on their foot?  It &#8216;must&#8217; be a way of &#8216;getting attention&#8217; or being &#8216;intentionally disruptive&#8217;:  in other words, another &#8216;manipulation&#8217;!  <strong><em>Right?</em></strong></p>
<p>Teachers and parents do not like being manipulated&#8230;.</p>
<p>Not even a little bit.  And when a particular kid is thought to be manipulative over and over and over, teachers and/or parents or other authority figures (like, later in life, employers) will have little patience with them.  Any new &#8216;situation&#8217; the Aspie gets into, the &#8216;authority&#8217; will already see them as a &#8216;manipulator&#8217; before even finding out any facts about the &#8216;situation&#8217;.</p>
<p>Except that&#8230;</p>
<p>The Aspie IS NOT being manipulative!</p>
<p>He or she might not even be aware that their behaviour is seen as in any way inconsistent:  they are simply displaying their &#8216;honest reaction&#8217;!</p>
<p>So how is this possible?</p>
<p>Each one of us has a whole bunch of &#8216;filters&#8217; which constantly block out a lot of the stimula which our senses are bombarded with.</p>
<p>The &#8216;hand  in cold water example&#8217;:</p>
<blockquote><p>When you first put your hand into cold water, it will <strong>really</strong> feel cold.  This is because the touch sensors in your skin will detect a <strong>&#8216;change&#8217; in state</strong> and send the message that you are &#8216;now experiencing contact with cold water&#8217; with a specific amount of <strong>urgency</strong>.</p>
<p>After a while, you will still <strong>&#8216;feel cold&#8217;</strong> on your hand, but you will have <strong>&#8216;become used to it</strong>&#8216;:  since there was no change in state, the <strong>urgency</strong> of the cold signal had<strong> decreased</strong>.  It never really went away, but the intensity of the feeling of &#8216;cold&#8217; had been reduced.</p>
<p>One way of describing it is to liken it to the &#8216;cold signal&#8217; being passed through many filters, from weaker ones to progressively stronger and stronger ones until the &#8216;signal&#8217; is quite negligible.  It&#8217;s still there &#8211; you are aware of it. But, it&#8217;s in the background.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><em>Now imagine if you only had one filter! </em></strong></p>
<p>The &#8216;cold signal&#8217; would either be 100% strong and urgent &#8211; or completely filtered out.  And, imagine that you would not have a very good control over whether the filter is on, or off (most people are not consciously in control of their &#8216;gradual&#8217; filters &#8211; but the very presence of &#8216;many&#8217; filters which are &#8216;automatically&#8217; applied in just the right order, their perceptions are modulated).</p>
<p>With only the &#8216;no filter&#8217; or &#8217;100%&#8217; filter available to you, your reaction would certainly be quite different when the filter was &#8216;on&#8217; or &#8216;off&#8217;!</p>
<p>You would not be &#8216;manipulative&#8217; when you reacted to the &#8217;100% signal&#8217; &#8211; nor would you be intentionally inattentive when your brain did not receive the signal because the &#8217;100% filter&#8217; was &#8216;on&#8217;!</p>
<p>With &#8216;no filter&#8217; &#8211; even mild sounds would distract you into tears and trigger headaches, even a casual brush against your back would send you sprawling and feeling injured!  With &#8217;100% filter on&#8217;, you would not be aware of how loud you are &#8211; or that someone in the room is speaking&#8230;or that instead of chopping up a tomato, you have almost severed your thumb (yes, I am guilty of that last one &#8211; and now I hate stupid tomatoes!).</p>
<p>Most Aspies do have &#8216;some&#8217; filters &#8211; but we are definitely missing others!  And, it differs from one Aspie to another:  both in the number of filters, and in the senses which are affected.</p>
<p>(Aside:  researchers have asserted that Aspies have fewer &#8216;temporary memory slots&#8217; than most people &#8211; I wonder if that or related mechanism could be responsible for Aspies having fewer &#8216;sensory filters&#8217; than most people do.)</p>
<p>So, what is the solution?</p>
<p>It is two-fold.</p>
<p>First and foremost, it is essential that when the Aspie is young, the educators, parents and other care-givers are aware that these behaviours are not manipulations.  It does NOT mean the resultant behaviour ought to be tolerated, either!</p>
<p>But, understanding that this is not a manipulation can build a lot of bridges, or, at least, burn them at a much slower pace&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, if the educators/parents understand this, they can observe their Aspie with this in mind:  learn the signs, and interpret them.  This is important, especially for young Aspies, because the parent/educator will have to guide the Aspie through it.</p>
<p>Aspies mature at different rates than other people:  they may be leaps and bounds ahead of &#8216;normal&#8217; kids in some respects, but way behind in others.  So, their individual maturity levels must be taken into consideration when they are taught how to make sense of the world and how to help the world make sense of them.</p>
<p>The second part of the &#8216;solution&#8217; is to explain this to the Aspie in terms which the Aspie will understand.  Age and maturity levels, and all that&#8230;.  But, I do think that using the &#8216;filters analogy&#8217; can help even young Aspies understand what is happening to them &#8211; and why others are not understanding it.  (Using props can help &#8211; and be fun!)</p>
<p>As I have written before &#8211; getting the Aspie to understand is the key to &#8216;everything&#8217;!</p>
<p>Especially if &#8216;being as Aspie&#8217; is presented as being both a curse and a gift:  the way you are will create you some serious problems &#8211; but it is also these very things which can make you uber-succeed!  Just think of how useful &#8216;superfocusing&#8217; is when you have to study for exams! (My favourite example to young Aspies.)</p>
<p>These are the two things the Aspie must <strong>be taught </strong>to understand:</p>
<p>1.  <strong>What is happening to you</strong>:  the &#8216;missing filters&#8217; thing &#8211; or a similar analogy</p>
<p>2.  <strong>This is not what is happening to most people</strong>:  that is why they do not understand what is happening to you and are totally misinterpreting your reactions.  That<strong> is</strong> a longterm problem<strong> for you</strong>, the Aspie.</p>
<p>Once the Aspie understands both of these things, start teaching the Aspie how to notice on their own what state their filters are at&#8230;and, as they grow and mature, they can (not easily, not always, but to a great degree) learn to modulate their behaviours to &#8216;filter out&#8217; the effects of their &#8216;missing filters&#8217;!</p>
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